Oly anti-feed system proposal

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Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Radu » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:34 pm

U all saw what happened this month. I don't say some of the Japan's Chars don't deserve to be hero, but still, besides tank classes and tyrant and Berserker, none of them qualifyes for hero.
I allready proposed this system before, but prolly noone that can do something about it didn't saw it. So here i go again:
- change the losing/wining points ammount (delete the 10 point max losing ammount, keep the 10 point max wining amount) EXAMPLE: X char has 15 points, Y has 150 points
Situation:
X wins Y ---- X gets 3 points (wins 1/5 of his ammount), Y lose 30 points (loses 1/5 of his ammount)
X loses to Y ---- X loses 3 points (1/5 of his ammount), Y gets 3 points (wins 1/5 of X's ammount)

This way, being able to lose alot of points and win only 10 max will make ppl that intend to feed think twice before intentionally lose a match.
Thx

Waiting for other ideeas.

PS: i didn't forgot about the Titan hero (SkyHawk) that got hero again by feed...u can all check his matches...all against his own clannies. It's allready well known the 2nd oly wave method :)
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Artheidan » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:04 pm

Ok,now make u an example that will be extremely funny.

A normal active player fight ( before match rank 1 with 250) vs another active players of the same class ( before match rank 1 too with same point).

Episode : Rank 1 player win 10 points ( 260 ) -> Rank 2 player lose 50 points lol ( 200 )

Oh yes, one fight is enoiugh to take u out forever from competition XD
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Artheidan » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:13 pm

No, u didn't get the point of what u saying.

He say to keep max point obtained at 10 and erase the limit for losing.

So if 2 players with 250 points fight one vs another, the winner will take 10 points,and the looser will lose 50.
Automatically, cuz of just 1 fight, the player is out of the competition for hero.
That's totally lame lol
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Mamaitza » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:36 pm

Artheidan wrote:Oh yes, one fight is enoiugh to take u out forever from competition XD


Next match between those 2 will show 2 possible things...first one: if the one that won first time wins again...he's better :), 2nd: if the the one that lost first time wins he'll get to 210 pts and the other one will get kinda same pts... couse he's gonna lose about 50 also.
Am i right?
It's allmost the same thing atm.... 2 active players with lots of pts... they can allways get back to high points if thery're good.
If i remember well, tough decisions were taken to stop ppl abusing some actions...alltho it changed whole class gameplay.....kamael's "Steal Divinity".
Atm, it's a fact, TheJapans abused feeding oly. It's a measure that could stop them.

I would suggest something more: +6 capped gear in oly.
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Artheidan » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:50 pm

No u are not right.

Cuz there could be tons of circumstances in which a player even if better then another one, can lose 2 matches in row.
What we do so?
+20 from one side, - 90 from the other? So in 2 matches the difference will be 120 from 0. Lol i suppose u are joking.
Without counting that, in reality i don't get the point of "abusing" feed; someone stop u from making the same class they make? Don't u see they make just useless class like spectral dancer, sword muse, dwarf and so on? Make one on ur own, and compete for hero instead of watching in a passive way everthing.

About the +6 enchant capped in oly has been already purposed from 1 players sometimes ago.
The suggestion was refused simply cuz it is senseless.
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Mamaitza » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:16 am

We can go on and on with that...u can say 1 player may lose 5 in a row, i'll say but still if he;s better he can also win 5 in a row against his opponent. The proposal was to lower the number of intentionally lost matches. In a fair fight, u can lose all points, u should face the fact and accept the defeat, it was a real fight, not a trucated one. Remember the times when ppl used to win/lose 1/5 from points without 10 points cap?
PS About the caped +6 gear: Prolly that time it was rejected becouse it was no extreme situation like this. Japan won that many heroes just becose they have welll geared tanks that can farm lots of points (eventho they may not get hero), but still they can lose intentionally enough pts to other classes.
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Fixed drop protection/most dmg (solo, party etc)
Blow Formula Update at Freya/H5 for Smrt.
Replaced cancel from npcs/rbs.
Expose Weak Point fixed.
Fixed bug from delusion chamber with spoil.
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby dacul » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:30 am

btw...who is endeker the new soultaker hero??
i never hear about her/him
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Artheidan » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:43 am

No mama.
Cuz if a player lose 2 matches in row vs me, and i take and advantage of 120 points, i can with no problem wait the end of month without playing anymore cuz 120 points are really a lot.

And again, the same question of before: what stop u from making a tank and feed who u like more?

Btw, yes i remember the oly an when both win and lose points where not capped. Now is way better to avoid feed. Before a farm class could take mass points fast cuz of no limit win and give just 1 win a some noob classes. so the noob class go like at 100 points in 1 match, and the farm one will just remake the points in 3 seconds.
At least, with the 10 points cap, feeded players need to take a risk fighting more then one time only.
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Ezekiel » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:13 pm

i think i go make a spectral master to kick some tanks asses...
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Re: Oly anti-feed system proposal

Postby Sorin » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:42 pm

I think i told this countless times..

Everywhere in all l2 worlds the lesser strong chars are feeded by the strong ones.. what seems to be the problem.. its everywhere like that, from retail to private servers

The problem that you fail to understand (some not all )is that this month : blacksea removed the ip protection because some of you when disconnected couldnt connect again, because of the problem "ip is already registered".

I lobbied a lot to black to change it.. he did warn me this was going to happen..but nevertheless he changed eventually, so yes no more "ip is already registered" but you could register 10 chars, ofc when 2 of them met both lost points .. but this way enabled japan to make private oly and feed some of the heroes they have.

This feed i am against and is "not normal", the regular feed, no matter how much all of you cry here happens everywhere and will stay like that always.

Its normal that oly is planned and fought for, it is a competition.

I am prolly the only one that doesnt "hate" Japan, even tho i lost hero because of their feed, but i consider this normal, everywhere ppl feed, i should have been better and beat pakete more, then he couldnt have feeded that much, or gotnosex or w/e.

everyone plays this game for reason, if Daut plays for Oly then whats your problem.. be better then him, if you can, if not stop QQ.

PS. I would worry if a lot of heroes would go to my enemies, but Japan never pvps, their heroes dont actually disturb anyone.
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