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DA or Pally?

Postby cyrustv54 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:09 pm

I was wondering what people thought about going Pally compared to DA? Which is better at pvp/pve and why?
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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby MrNelson » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:55 pm

Paladin, of course. Played both. No doubt. Only if you want to specialize on angels, DA should be your choice. Panther is no argument, if you need firepower while levveling, raise a wolf. People call Paladin support tank. Bullshit! With their Sacrifice, and Touch of life they are pure defensive, exactly what tanking is all about. And my feeling is that the Paladins Shield Stun tends to land more often. But that's just a feeling. Numbers don't say so.

Target one-self, and use Touch of life, you can keep yorurself alive a bit longer if the healers fail.

If you have good health, target a nuker, use Sacrifice, the nuker uses Body-to-mind, builds mana and nukes, and you turn on Angelic Icon. A win/win for all. Paladins have the most possibilitys. Versatile skills. And pure defesive.
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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby sarissa » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:10 pm

If u are looking for OP tank i think DA is the best , otherwise if u wanna play a healer-tank , paladin is the best option.
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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby DarkTank » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:30 pm

In this server most people think that Phoinix Knight is better vs Hell Knight. (Pallandin vs DA), but that's because Hell Knight in this server is nurfed.
Hell Knights skills are not working in this server as they should because people where crying so Admin had to change them. (Skills: Touch of Death and Insane Crusher Nurfed*)

But, even though Hell Knights skills were nurfed they still Fucking Rock. They are a really good option.
WIth their Seed of Revenge they can Farm and kill mobs faster. If you don't know what Seed of Revenge is, its like the Frenzy that Titans have. but for only 16 seconds. (Reuse time is really fast. 45 secs)

Hell Knight is supposed to be more Offensive and Phoinix Knight more Defensive.
However they both Rock and depending of whom is controlling them they are GODs.

Now again if you put a Hell Knight Vs Phoinix Knight the result will Depend on how each is playing and what their Gear is.
If they Have the exact same gear then it only depends who is best on controlling his Virtual Character.

For instance there are some rubbish Phoinix Tanks out there and some Worthless Hell Knights too.
So just because someone from them lost to someone that doesn't mean that their class is not good. Its just them that suck in controlling them.

So what I am trying to say to you here is that what ever Tank you choose, it will depend on you if its going to be good or bad.
Its you that have to be good in order to have a Good Tank.

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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby Artheidan » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:40 pm

As cancel will become retail like in high five, go DA at 100%.
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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby MrNelson » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:53 pm

I stand my ground. Regardless of the skills of the person behind the keyboard, or the serveradmin's fiddling, out of the four knight's classes in game, the Paladin has the best potential when it comes to pure tanking in party's in pve. And that's what we are talking about. You dont farm with a properly set up tank. At least not a Paladin. That's the prize you pay. Level with a polearm and a wolf, or solo-tank big mobs as training. But farm with a dwarf or a fighter-class.

Have limited experience in pvp. Am a loner. But, anyway, why choose a tank for pvp??? That's not what they are meant for. You can build a tank as a good damage-dealer, but that means sacrifising defensive abilities. Make a choice, and choose class accordingly.

If you want to try an offensive tank, why not a Shilen Knight? Have one in the early 60's, and must admitt, I'm impressed. The damage-potential of a BladeDancer, and the knight-skills necessary to control a boss. Good all-round class. Give it a try.
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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby sarissa » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:15 pm

Mrnelson , this guy is talking about DA or Pally and some of us wrote that DA is more offensive . Of course , there is one class more if he wanna play damage knight class : Shilien Knight or Shilien Templar ( 3rd class change ) . Shilien Templar's 83 lvl skills Pain of Shilien ''rocks'' vs character or mobs because critical dmg increased as well as your VR increased . By the time he ask about Human Knight i-we express our view about Humans ;-)
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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby MrNelson » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:39 pm

See your point. My last post, promise. But if this boils down to offensive/defensive tank classes, we have made one thing clear: The best defensive knight is Paladin. Of all. Then, if you want an offensive tank, I just point to the obvious: There is still 3 to choose from. All with different skills and stats. DA is not only option.
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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby sarissa » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:46 pm

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
cyrustv54 wrote:I was wondering what people thought about going Pally compared to DA? Which is better at pvp/pve and why?



btw , when you say '3' more that number include Eva's Templar ?
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Re: DA or Pally?

Postby LordJOhn » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:30 am

Hell Knight is way better in Farming. Way better than Phoinix Knight that is.
And the Reason is the Seed of Revenge that he has. But its a pain in the Ass to manage to get it.
But with the new Hi5 update (NExt month) its going to be easy to get it.

Now in the PvP they are exactly the same. (Takin into account that they Both have the same Armors, Dyes, Buffs and Gear)

I do Martial Arts and the Best Defence is a good Offence.

Palla can protect its party members, with a couble of Defensive skills that he has. (Touch of Life for instance or Sacrifice)
DA can protect its party members by Debuffing and Canceling the enemies buffs. (Touch of Death, Panther Cancel and Insane Crusher)

So here you can see that in both ways you can actually protect your pt members. (Offcourse in both cases instant aggro is required)

Now as DarkTank said it will be on you and how you play the game and what options you make. (What Buffs you put, what Armor you choose, what Dyes you put etc...)

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I forgot to mention that Hell Knights skills are not working as they should at the moment as DarkTank mentioned.
But as Artheidan said they will be working just fine Next Month.
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