Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby tatao » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:58 am

okis 22 secs delay sounds fair, and what about olys, impossible to change?. I don't think a mass of SH can take a castle. And in the server too little of us.
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby Artheidan » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:04 pm

tatao wrote:okis 22 secs delay sounds fair, and what about olys, impossible to change?. I don't think a mass of SH can take a castle. And in the server too little of us.

22 seconds is in official server.
Here will remain the same ( i hope at least ).
Mass SH can take a castle in that way -> Bring mass sh at start of siege -> steal buffs of all players at least two times -> come with main class fullbuffed and kick players that miss all dances and songs + 1 buffs. -> gf.
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby Artheidan » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:05 pm

jamesphamuk wrote:
Artheidan wrote:
tatao wrote:I do, i got pissed with fear, stun etc.. but I understand it is part of game, and the wide band of each class. SO why not with Steal Divinity? At least in Olys?
It change all!, for example Sould Hound vs Warrios whom use final secret, i can't stole this, or vs Khavatari and their good physical buffs.. am i right? , Do i?



Oke, i try explain u where is the skill differenhce between fear, shield stun and steal divinity.
At the lvl the server have reach now, unless u have a fear very high enchanted, all rb jewels and a very good weapon, ur fear will never land. The example i give u is that i need most of time more then 5 try to land that debuff and i have it + 30 and i have over 20k m atk + full rb jewels set.
Apart of that, there are tons of debuffs, like chant of spirit and so on, that increase the chance of not take this buffs.
About shield stun is almost the same, with the additional "problem" that there are quite a good amount of armor in game that icnrease the stun resistence + some buffs that make the same.
So, to summarize i can say with no problem that, in high lvl pvp, u need an 85 stacked toons, with high enchant skills and weapon to manage to land ( after some try ) the skill overmentioned.
Apart of that, if a player fear u in pvp and kick ur ass, u can say with no problems " Hey, he feared me. fuk that, i go back and kill him this time". Then try to port back and fight again, immediatly. With the will of pvp.

Considering now Steal divinity.
U need a lvl 52 kamael.
It have 100% land rate regardless of the buffs the enemy have.
U can't say, after u get killed after Stela Divinity " I go back to pvp him " simply because before u can go back, u need to rebuff urself.So u rebuff urself, and go back to fight. Steal divinity -> rebuff again -> steal divinity -> rebuff again -> steal divinity-> etc etc etc.
As is normal to suppose everyone will get pissed at the 2nd/3rd times he need to rebuff himself after 1 minute, cuz players have log out kamael just to steal him buffs.


That's why fear, shield stun and any other debuff u can think about are not "nerfed" and instead steal divinity has been "fixed".
And nerfed and fixed are not the same word and neither same meaning.


Wheres fear brake if stun break DOES EXIST in this server.



Fear break doesn't exist in l2. Stun break exists but here doesn't work.
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby tatao » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:32 pm

Fine, 22 secs delay at offical, but the skill exist, no a custom "debuff". If this skill make unbalanced teh game as you say, why Nsoft did it?, think about the Judicators buff are really powerfull, or about the 8k of magic defense in the arbalester char, the reason is SH, Judicator are elite units. BUt here is the only server who has it custom. Just making happy to another players because we can use their buffs or make damage with course of divinity. Amazing!
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby Artheidan » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:51 pm

Ok then u have obtain....THE LIST XDD

Why ncsfot have made:

Archer overpowered som crhonicles ago?
Disarm land rate near at 100%?
Tanks with 50 UDs and hitting so hard that they are become a DD with uber p def instead then tank?
Necro overpowered some chronicles ago?
Sleep from mage overpowered at start?
Mana burn that doesn't erased sleep status?
Steal divinity?
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If u want i can continue.

As always Ncsoft first make overpowered skills, after nerf them till death. GIve ur stal divinity 2/3 more update and u will not be happy :D

Btw, about the rest.

Judicator buffs last 15 seconds lol
Trickster is no played by anyone cuz it simply suck ass.
Only server have it custom?
Wanna bet i find tons of server, even pvp one, where this skill is not as official?

Ah, btw, doesn't u see u are naming just kamael class? Why they are so overpowered? Ok, i explain u.
Kamael is come in the game at the omonimous update. At that time, in official, most of players was lvl 80 or higher and it took them over 2 years to reach it.
Who would reroll kamael and spent other lot of months, if they was not overpowered?
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby tatao » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:58 pm

As always Ncsoft first make overpowered skills, after nerf them till death. GIve ur stal divinity 2/3 more update and u will not be happy :D

No i think so, maybe in reuse time, but now, and for Freya as i showed, no fixeds as you say. I see you are happy thinking Nsoft will change this skill just because people cry.

trickster are shit? really? because nobody pick it?, i see almost nobody pick Soul Hound either? is it shit too? oh! i forgot! the people run to make always a gladi :P to the people spanish speaker i have a video to this watch and enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt5uxvxTbh8

with trickster you can kill wizards faster than berseker :P.

Anyway for close this really, with all this conversation two things are clear:
1. The server is unfair, because make custom skill, to make happy people whom like to cry. Instance of retail like skills.
2. You should send a sugerence to Nsoft to change that skill because the all people are dieing with it, and you hate too kamaels because are "owerpowered" and the fixes don't coming still.
Have fun!
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby Artheidan » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:07 am

I don't understand if u read what i write, or if u just skip what u don't like and put only what u prefer.
I said 2/3 chronicles. What the heck Freya have to deal with my affermation?

Yes, Trickster are sh1t. Nobody pick it? Wrong. I have it, it is the hero of this month on the server and it simply suck ass. Low p def, low hp, low everything. The only class trickster can kill are archers and mage without enlighment. Once they get enlightment it will be even hard, with the need of landing a decent number of crit or being totally fuked.
Doombringer kill mage way faster, with no doubt.

So, as u say, to close this:

1) The fact u don't like how the skill is made it doesn't mean is unfair. There was a poll on forum about it, and majority of the player voted for steal divinity on that way. Server sake > ur single player sake. Deal with it.
2) I don't need to write anything at ncsoft. There is in forum official already tons of posts about it, some with over 20 pages of answeres. Everyone saying pretty much what i am saying to u, some players of soul hound too. They are not so closed mind, tnx god.

I'll add a....

....3) If u are serious telling SoulHound and Doombringer are not overpowered i suggest u being more objective lol
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby Artheidan » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:48 am

jamesphamuk wrote:Stun break exist how do i land stun at 21 sec and stun finish at around 2 sec on nukers.


How come that elphik the 30 of august, vs PaketePipas was stunned for over 12 seconds and so she died without doing nothing?
It doesn't exists.
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby Artheidan » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:45 pm

The problem is that u are not objective.

Ah, btw, i played Eva templar wuite a lot this last months. Is that a tank?
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Re: Steal of Divinity Kamael Soul Hound Skill

Postby nismo85 » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:36 am

2month playing and losing to char 3 days made wont quite make u a "experienced tank" :))))
U were pathetic excuse of an tank...char what anyone could overtake with week job...dont tell anyone anything about tank u dont know it
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