Lineage 2 High Five private server

[tatao]

The normal skill that's all, at least in Olys. Is not the same take steal buffs andleave the opponent without buffs in olys, than decrease a few stats piff.

[Artheidan]

I do, i got pissed with fear, stun etc.. but I understand it is part of game, and the wide band of each class. SO why not with Steal Divinity? At least in Olys?
It change all!, for example Sould Hound vs Warrios whom use final secret, i can't stole this, or vs Khavatari and their good physical buffs.. am i right? , Do i?

Oke, i try explain u where is the skill differenhce between fear, shield stun and steal divinity.
At the lvl the server have reach now, unless u have a fear very high enchanted, all rb jewels and a very good weapon, ur fear will never land. The example i give u is that i need most of time more then 5 try to land that debuff and i have it + 30 and i have over 20k m atk + full rb jewels set.
Apart of that, there are tons of debuffs, like chant of spirit and so on, that increase the chance of not take this buffs.
About shield stun is almost the same, with the additional "problem" that there are quite a good amount of armor in game that icnrease the stun resistence + some buffs that make the same.
So, to summarize i can say with no problem that, in high lvl pvp, u need an 85 stacked toons, with high enchant skills and weapon to manage to land ( after some try ) the skill overmentioned.
Apart of that, if a player fear u in pvp and kick ur ass, u can say with no problems " Hey, he feared me. fuk that, i go back and kill him this time". Then try to port back and fight again, immediatly. With the will of pvp.

Considering now Steal divinity.
U need a lvl 52 kamael.
It have 100% land rate regardless of the buffs the enemy have.
U can't say, after u get killed after Stela Divinity " I go back to pvp him " simply because before u can go back, u need to rebuff urself.So u rebuff urself, and go back to fight. Steal divinity -> rebuff again -> steal divinity -> rebuff again -> steal divinity-> etc etc etc.
As is normal to suppose everyone will get pissed at the 2nd/3rd times he need to rebuff himself after 1 minute, cuz players have log out kamael just to steal him buffs.


That's why fear, shield stun and any other debuff u can think about are not "nerfed" and instead steal divinity has been "fixed".
And nerfed and fixed are not the same word and neither same meaning.

[tatao]

You are right and wrong at same time. The skill steal of divinity doesn't take ALL buffs only between 1-7 buffs depends of probability, including it fails not taking any buffs, for example if a kamael is 65 and the Pj X is 80++ maybe, MAYBE will take 1-3 buffs, so do you need rebuff only for 3 buffs?.

But my point is the skill at olys, events, siege only, I am not talking bullshit pvp in GC, i understand perfect the annoying to people, who made a Soul Breaker only to debuff people, maybe Another action are possible than custom the skills, Band a few days?, or the skill normal at olys? that's all!too difficult? or Impossible?. I like really this server, and i talk surely because the littles Soul Hound in the server, we feel very bad with this.

[Ezekiel]

well it s how it is mate if you aint happy you can always leave...
btw soulhounds still can kick a lot of classes in olymp if you have a good equiped char and know how to play

[tatao]

Nah, it's not never the same, fine, fine! as you said time to leave

[Artheidan]

You are right and wrong at same time. The skill steal of divinity doesn't take ALL buffs only between 1-7 buffs depends of probability, including it fails not taking any buffs, for example if a kamael is 65 and the Pj X is 80++ maybe, MAYBE will take 1-3 buffs, so do you need rebuff only for 3 buffs?.

But my point is the skill at olys, events, siege only, I am not talking bullshit pvp in GC, i understand perfect the annoying to people, who made a Soul Breaker only to debuff people, maybe Another action are possible than custom the skills, Band a few days?, or the skill normal at olys? that's all!too difficult? or Impossible?. I like really this server, and i talk surely because the littles Soul Hound in the server, we feel very bad with this.

Can u please quote me where i wrote down that it remove all ur buffs?
I just told it have 100% land rate, nothing else.
And, yes, i rebuff even for 3 buffs cuz if the first time they are just 3 missing, at the 2nd will be already 6. Considering that dance song are the first buffs at getting stealed, losing 3 dances/songs means a rebuff immediatly.

Now, let' point out what u really want.
U have make this class just to pwn in oly and not cuz u like it, that's quite clear.
Unfortunatly for u this skill work that way and, to be honest, i really prefer the sake of server instead then ur single player sake.

Ah btw, there are active soul hound that play with pleasure their class. The debuff of steal divinity is a strong one.

[tatao]

Nope you are wrong, i really love this one, i have a couple of time playing L2, and always, ALWAYS i am Soul Hound, this char is the perfect for me, and my style. Is sad, because i have good feeling here at the server, it's easy tome make another char. But no, because i am always Soul Hound. Good bye, non sense keep talking the point, because too far from you the acceptation, and I me either about this. Good luck, Have fun.

[Artheidan]

Then if u really like the class as u say, where is the problem in playing it as it is here?
As everyone already said teh debuff of Steal divinity is a strong one; the most important buffs go from their max lvl to the lvl 1 is not that an advantage enough big to be a FIX of the skill and not a NERF?
What u gonna do now that in the next few chronicle NCsoft Kr is going to change this skill? Quitting totally?
If u really love this server as u say, would be easy to understand that a steal divinity in that way is the best to keep it populated.
U was not here but last time, before the change, a bunch of over 50 players left the server cuz of the attitude i just pointed out before.

Offcourse u are free to do what u liek more, change server or stay.
But i felt that this should be wrote down.

[tatao]

I understand your point, i was just talking about the normal skill for serious dealing, like olys, siege wars, only. (this sounds fair eh? considering it is part of the character). I here the new Edition gotta be change the land rate, but i guess it is only a speak. And you can check it out:
http://www.lineage2.com/news/freya_07.html the section class & and skills changes, no said anything about Soul Hound.

[Artheidan]

Siege is like a normal pvp, so just can't be changed. In reality siege is even worst cuz u can steal buffs also of not flagged players!
Mass of soul hound to take a castle ftw!!

About the change i was not talking about Freya.
Btw in Freya it has already been changed at a start of 22 seconds of delay instead then 17.
Don't worry, more FIX will come witht he future update